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"Writing Strong Women = Writing a Man with Boobs" What?!?

Came across a comment that I couldn't work out on Scans_daily the other day,
"I almost want to agree. It doesn't help that when Rucka writes a strong woman he tends to just write a man then throw boobs on her."
http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/1199225.html?#cutid1

Aside from the comment itself being stupid, it got me thinking.

In various places they've mentioned women in fiction being written differently to men, in the Jack Nicholson movie 'As Good As It Gets' for example, but when I'm writing I didn't really think about it.

Does it mean I'm writing all my characters as guys or something? I'm confused, maybe someone out there can explain it to me better.

How are women written differently from men? Or was that poster just being a sexist jerk, assuming that women are only written like women if they're talking about dresses and makeup 24/7?

Comments

Yeah, I found that comment really stupid. It's impossible to write a "man with boobs". People's personalities are so varied and different and gender doesn't really determine THAT many qualities. I mean heck, I don't wear make up, I read comics, I guess I'm a "man with boobs", It's a stupid claim, I'd just ignore it.

(Anonymous)

I wonder about this from time to time and as a exercise I gender swap stars from movies and books to see what happens.
My experience is that almost any man will make a cool women when swapped like this (Wolverine is a great example)but the women don't swap so well sadly.
That's true.

In the original script for Alien Ripley was actually a man, but they cast a woman instead and really the role wasn't changed very much.
I thought that all the characters were written gender-neutral and they held open casting - so any character might've been played male or female.

(Anonymous)

My understand was the full cast was going to be men. Where do you get your info from if I can ask?
Right, Okay. Thanks for your input. :)

(Anonymous)

No, I wasn't being "a sexist jerk". In fact, while this doesn't negate the possibility of being sexist, I'm a woman.

What I meant is that there are differences between males and females beyond parts. It's the way we interact with one another, the way we see the world, the way we are. When I read Rucka I don't see him writing strong women, I see him writing strong men or just ignoring their gender altogether. It's a subconscious note on his part that the only way a woman can be strong is by acting like a man.

As for what I mean by acting like a man? No, I don't think that the only way to write women is to have them "talking about dresses and makeup 24/7". The differences in gender are subtle and it comes down to acknowledging that there are certain traits that are feminine and certain ones that are masculine. It's embracing both and coding a character as their gender rather than using only masculine traits to make them strong and ignoring the rest.

/two-cents
You're being very vague about your traits that are masculine are feminine and subtle differences. What are they? What's a specific instance of Rucka writing a "man" instead of a women? I mean, honestly, I don't really believe in traits being "masculine" or "feminine"... I think that line of thinking is more a product of our culture. Lots of people I know have an equal amount of bot traits.
And no one called you a sexist jerk, btw.

(Anonymous)

I think a example would be really helpful for this.

Anyway I am kinda surprised I have not gotten any hate over saying that many female hero's don't translate well as men.

(Anonymous)

After a talk with my wife I wonder if it is just some depiction that don't translate well like the femme fatale.

I do wonder if any men would not cross over well. What about James Bond?
Does it mean I'm writing all my characters as guys or something? I'm confused, maybe someone out there can explain it to me better.

*wonders if this is a good time to mention the time when I used to think e-bot was a woman...*

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